Kart Classes For Nola???

[Garett@NMS]

What classes would you like to see at NMS???


Garett :cool:

[versteeg racing]

I think classes that are similar to the format you had at Miller were great ! The only problem I saw was not enough kids were in Mini Max ,and that is the reason we are traveling to other tracks and events .I know you love 4 cycle because the cost is affordable ,and the class has alot of kids in it .

[Buddy]

What classes would you like to see at NMS???


Garett :cool:

Garrett, In order to foster a healthy growth in the local karting scene, I believe it will be necessary to have a grass roots effort including 4 stroke classes. In the past there have been too many variations in this part of the karting scene and thus has fragmented what is a small group to start with. Therefore, I would suggest that you establish as few of these sub categories as possible in order to generate larger groups of racers in 4 stroke.

Following 4 stroke the natural progression is to 2 stroke karts, of which the 100cc centrifugal classes have not been a very successful categories around here. I would suggest Rotax and or 80cc shifter instead.. This has a good following with nearby Texas karting SWRA.org group of 8-10, and at one time resulted in a regular group of move-ups from 4-stroke locally.. Most of these young men, my son included have moved on to the 125cc shifters and are still active.

Currently, there are at least a dozen active participants in the 125cc class, both Light and Heavy class. Most follow the 125cc weight rules, although this has been a point of contention with the more senior members who routinely weigh in over the 400lb mark. We've tried to find a balance so we can all race, but that seems to be a prob.. Light guys get penalized for the sake of the heavier karts etc.

So to recap I would suggest to start.

4- stroke- 2 classes- Animal's
2- stroke
80cc shifter
Rotax
125cc shifter
Light 370 lbs
Heavy 400lbs
Superkart-- Open

[bo rougeou]

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[Garett@NMS]

Buddy,
I agree 100% with the grass roots 4 Cycle; we have had this class for ten years in Utah area with great success (one of our biggest classes). I also really like the Rotax program, engine package is a little more money but can be with you for years as you move up.
BO
Sanctioning Body’s, this one is a little harder I agree it is much easier to align with one for rule books, class and such we just want to make sure it benefits the racer there is some cost to this for the racer but many are already members. Something we need to look at. I would like to talk about this with you can you email your contact info? garett@nolamotor.com.

This is all great info and exactly what I’m looking for, please help us spread the word if you have any ideas or would like me to show up for an event I would love to be there. Keep the question and comments coming!!

Thank You,
Garett

[bbutler]

There are 5 Superkarts in the N.O. area. Will they be able to test and tune on the sprint track eventually or will they have to wait and be part of another body using/renting the north course? Hopefully the future in your karting endevors will include road racing venues attracting the hundreds of karts in the southern U.S.!

[Garett@NMS]

Bobby,

Yes you will be able to use the sprint track on T&T days, in groups of course. I can also see adding Super Karts sessions to open track days on the big track.
Having club, regional and national events is high on my list. I would like to see a regional or national event going on the same weekend a Road Race on the big track and Sprint on the kart track 400-600 karts this is very possible.

Garett

[Fast55]

Welcome to Louisiana, Garett.
I just purchased a kid kart and a cadet kart, both well used, with the intentions of getting my grandsons (ages 4 & 7) into karting. So I would naturally like to see classes for these karts to run, but open track sessions, schools, or other youth classes are all interesting possibilities if they discover they love racing as much as their Pa does.
Thanks,
Paul Donovan

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[bbutler]

There were over 300 entries at the last millers event in salt lake put on by Bernie Adamson and that was only a road course without a separate sprint track....there you have it....with all the right stuff 400 karts can show for a combined event like Daytona....remember Road Atlanta in November is history...lets watch this years event at millers in sept and nola can have a shot at a "winter" or "spring" venue eventually when everyone else is shovining snow....no matter, we b gonna have "tuh track of the south".....not to mention all the wanna bees, corporate guys and weekend hotties....Lanny Vision....

[Buddy]

I agree.. Right now the Big South Series group no longer can afford Barber due to insurance and other costs as well as Road Atlanta.. These two races were big draws for them in years past.. This is the first year that Road Atlanta is not going to host a Nov year end event for karts.. Everyone misses Barber, but the cost for a three day weekend event got outrageous for Big South. They have drawn in excess of 250 karts at some previous events in the past at Barber. They ran out of space to park trailers in conjunction with a Rolex race they held.

The SWRA group, just found out that Oak Hill which was scheduled to host two events has been sold to a Granite company and as a result the two races this year are now scrubbed. They have over 150 karters

Texas World is also a 25 thousand dollar rental for this group.

The timing for a good facility that want to organize a big kart event is now.. I would be planning the 2011 summer race event and reach out both east and west.

If you want to draw 300 karts plus it will take both groups participating, plus the grass roots effort to grow the local and regional karting ranks

[bbutler]

I've got fifty bucks saying the fastest lap on the north course for the 1st six monts after opening will be a local superkart! Any takers? BB

[Garett@NMS]

I've got fifty bucks saying the fastest lap on the north course for the 1st six monts after opening will be a local superkart! Any takers? BB

Not me!!!! The Super Karts are only 1.2 off the track record at Miller set by a LMP2 prototype. If they run midsummer instead of September they would hold the record for sure. YES BY A KART 15K- LMP2 $2+Million.

Garett

[slamana]

I've got fifty bucks saying the fastest lap on the north course for the 1st six monts after opening will be a local superkart! Any takers? BB

50 bucks says its by a local racer with a well built 125!

[bbutler]

it's still not legal to smoke that stuff Steven!

[slamana]

The only thing I'm smoking is you! hahaha

[6DLassalle]

I've got fifty bucks saying the fastest lap on the north course for the 1st six monts after opening will be a local superkart! Any takers? BB

Bobby we all know its gonna be a kart...not sure about that whole "built 125" thing but definitely sounds like some old timers in the superkart class have some talk but can they walk that walk???

[bbutler]

There must be some miss- understanding about the "north course". I'm refering to the Road Course. I can't imagine a 125 making a faster lap than even one of the slowest 250 superkarts. There are five local superkarts. You can take your pick. Does that mean Mr. Lasalle is in for the 50 bucks? If Stephan would have asked, he could have gotten odds on his bet. And by the way, what's this old timer stuff....

[6DLassalle]

Bobby just saying I knew that a 125 didn't have a shot on the north. I was saying the old timers of the sport would get the job done with a superkart.... I think the field needs to watch for Arnold this year coming!?!?!

[slamana]

There must be some miss- understanding about the "north course". I'm refering to the Road Course. I can't imagine a 125 making a faster lap than even one of the slowest 250 superkarts. There are five local superkarts. You can take your pick. Does that mean Mr. Lasalle is in for the 50 bucks? If Stephan would have asked, he could have gotten odds on his bet. And by the way, what's this old timer stuff....

Well at certain tracks like No Problem 125's are faster, but at a track like Barber 125's are about 2-3 sec off the pace. Prove me wrong but if a superkart is faster it will only be by a very small difference (on just the North Course).

[slamana]

Bobby just saying I knew that a 125 didn't have a shot on the north. I was saying the old timers of the sport would get the job done with a superkart.... I think the field needs to watch for Arnold this year coming!?!?!

I want to see this! Pip turned a lap 2sec slower than him at the solo-1 race in an 80cc for his first time ever in a kart.

[bbutler]

Is anybody gonna ask for some sort of an intelligent interpertatiion of the previous post, or do I?

[bbutler]

O.K. I give up! What or who is "pip"? Solo 1 race? Track? Some people cannot read between the lines no matter how hard they try.....

[ABODENHEIMER]

it was a lapping day at no problem pip is a freind of dallas and i like to say now mine and has dallas's 80cc kart pip and i went give me a call

[6DLassalle]

Bobby: Pip is the man thats all anyone needs to know.
Arnold: we dont need to explain cockiness on the forum. Anyone who knows the sport knows whos actually fast and the others who just talk fast.....

Pip is our secret weapon!!

[slamana]

O.K. I give up! What or who is "pip"? Solo 1 race? Track? Some people cannot read between the lines no matter how hard they try.....

PIP- person
Solo 1 Race- SCCA event for a timed single lap
Track- NPR

[Bennz993]

Buddy I had the fortune of meeting you and your son Stephen today @ Saints training camp parking lot today and i must say you're absolutely correct when you say it's time for the New Orleans area to welcome motorsports of all kinds thanks to NOMSP. I haven't been active in the sport since 2005, and it was refreshing and exciting to see other Kart racers so excited about the future of Kart racing in the N.O area. Buddy i'm all about forming a new club and promoting our love of karting to all ages and classes!! So lets push this down the road and help revive our sport. i'm willing to do whatever it takes to make this work. Pleasure meeting you guys today !!! Let me know if i can help with anything , I know i can build the race shops cheap LOL!! Maybe Garett can use Accurate Steels services!! Ben

[dpergande]

Hey,
As a native from New Orleans now living in Houston, this is great news!

Consider http://www.southwestregionalcup.com/ for 2011. This series already hits Dallas, Houston (twice), Oklahoma and I am sure they are looking for another spot. They try to cater to a bunch of popular classes and usually get it all done in one day.

This weekend at MSR Houston is a pretty good size Rotax series race (Pan American Series), come on over and check it out!

Looking forward to 2011....

David Pergande
Rotax Masters #8

[AnthonyHarwin]

I was reading through this post and I had two comments.
1) I've seen the numbers on a Radar Gun tracking a Superkart down the banked front straight at Texas World....I want no part of young Mr. Lamana's bet. ;-)
2) In 2008 we gridded 74 shifters in three run groups (heavy mods, light mods, and stockers) started 30 seconds apart. Seven were from Louisiana. In 2010 we ran separate run groups between mods and stockers to allow racers to run both. We gridded less than 35 between the four classes (mod light/heavy and stock light/heavy). The karts are out there and when our president decides to let us drill again, racers will have the money again to come race.

[AnthonyHarwin]

I just looked at the recently updated expanded class specs on the website. I have a question or two. The shifter classes call out a Honda CR125. Does that mean that the ICCs and other moto engine types (I and a couple of others in Louisiana run a YZ125, there are at least two ICCs, and I've seen at least 1 Kawasaki) are excluded? Also, the heavy class calls for 16 years of age AND 200 lb body weight....many of the shifter chassis' roll at 215 lbs or more. Heavy classes I've seen spec'd before have called for 35 years of age OR 200 lbs body weight. Why different?

[Mitch Wright]

No the non Spec Honda Shifters will fall into our Open class. Past experience has shown us that we will have a 16 plus year old driver that is built like a linebacker and is impossible to make or get close to 385lb. You will see that 90% of the drivers running the Heavy class will be guys like you and I. Older, wiser and a if like me a few pounds overweight. I don't think we have discussed a weight for the Open class.

[Garett@NMS]

Anthony,

The class that we will be running for shifter heavy is S-4, this class will use SKUSA (www.superkartsusa.com) rule set which calls for the Honda CR125 1999 kit engine. We choose this class based on the popularity across the country the spec 125 class is by far the largest sprint shifter class left.

You are correct about the age and weight for S-4 (heavy shifter) if you look at the second Colum it calls out the age minimum of 35+, there is an exception to this rule that is stated in the last column 16+ 200LB body. If you are 16 years or older and your weight is 200+ without gear (suit, helmet, ect) you can run this class also. This is a national rule as well,

We will never turn a racer away from NMSP as long as the kart and you meet all the safety standards we have in place. We will have some kind of open class for you, Below is a post from a few months ago talking about classes and this is one of the hardest decisions a track has to make.

Thanks let me know if you have any more questions

Garett Potter


Post 12-2-2010
Classes:
Our -goal at NMSP is to give the best value to our customers best bang for the buck, how do we do this give the racers what they want TRACK TIME!!! the only way to accomplish this is limit classes the more groups you ad the less time you get period, I think we have come up with a very good lineup on classes nothing is perfect there is no way to have every class. I hope and am needing the support of all of you to try and keep these classes to a manageable number in the end it’s best for you guys, less classes bigger numbers better racing MORE LAPS!!!!

With all that said we will never turn a racer or test & tuner away from NMSP, we will find a place to put you with like speed karts as long as the kart meets safety requirements you’re in. And has a I LOVE NMSP sticker on it (kidding) maybe!! The only exception is that we may not score that racer, we may not have enough racers in a class to justify making hardware for podiums.


I encourage anyone to contact me that would like my help in getting an engine package that we run, I will do my best to help sell what you have and get you what you need.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Garett,

Fair enough. I ran the club that split races between Moore Park, JESTC and Gulfoaks in Mobile. I struggled with the same multiple class issues. I'll probably have to move to a Stock Honda in a couple of years, but for now I'll stick to my Yamaha and run IKF. I'll probably rework one of my animals to run the F200 class for the fun of it and run with the shifters for the fun of it. I'm not really that interested in awards at Nola, so no biggie there. I took 3rd last year in region 4, and won the 1st round a week ago, and am going for a national championship this year. We'll see how it plays out. I'll also be going after a Duffy this year, so running Nola will help me keep my skills sharp....provided it opens in time! Thanks for the reply.

[bo rougeou]

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[Mitch Wright]

We have used Burris tires at other facilities with great results and will provide savings to the NOLA racers. Past experience has shown that those racers that do travel to National races have spare wheels to have a set of Burris tires for our local races.

[bo rougeou]

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[Mitch Wright]

Bo, what type of kart are you racing and which series are you running? Sorry you feel that way and hope you do come over and burn some practice laps if you decide not to race. I know you will enjoy the track and hospitality. You are also more than welcome to run our Open class which will be open tires. We will also have some sets of Burris tires mounted up that you can try you might be surprised and like them. Question have you ever run a set of Burris tires?
All racers that I have worked with or know that run the Man Cup, Gold Cup, FWT, Gators, Pan American, SKUSA Pro Tour, IKF Regional series or Big Oval shows buy new sets of tires for each day and don't have a problem having a set of Club tires to run a local series so I am surprised you are being so negative. The vast majority of racers that run a local series don't travel or will rarely travel to a National level race, we race for the fun and camaraderie. And since that is the majority those are the karters that we want to look after.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Mitch, Bo is the Louisiana Governor for IKF. His son Steven runs a Formula Ltd CR125 on a Birel CR32 chassis. (light mod class).
I am with Bo on most of this. I will run my shifter in the open class or whatever and not use the Burris tires. No offense intended, but with the speed, lateral and braking forces it is capable of, I only trust a couple of tire brands. I buy 10 sets of Vega Blues at the beginning of the year for $150 per set with free shipping. If the sponsor dictates I'll run the MG Yellows which are about the same albeit more expensive at about $200 per set. Again, I'm not interested in being scored, just want to have fun. My research of the Burris tires suggests they are about the same cost as the Vegas, and having run them before, I am not confident in their grip level for the level of machine I'd be running them on. A mistake in a shifter can be significantly more dangerous then in an Animal, F200, or other kart at 15 or so hp. At 41+ with a 6 speed sequential gearbox... you know the deal. So in the end, I'm fine with whatever you set for rules on tires. We can agree to disagree on tire choice, and still have great fun racing and enjoying karting together. I'll eventually buy a set or two of Burris tires for the 4-stroke machines, just not the shifter (and yes I have plenty of wheel sets, so I can have all I want of whatever mounted.) When I bring my Coyote, it'll have Firestone YFAs (now Bridgestone YKDs) on it. It will have a modified animal on alcohol and we'll just not get scored. I will pull the Animal off the Margay and put my Flathead (also an alky motor) on it and it'll be on old worn out whatever I have laying around tires. I'll be very curious to see how the Animal and Flathead (very modified flathead) stack up against the F200s.

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[Fast Guys]

For what it's worth, that Vega Blue NordAm tire is a great tire for the money. They are $150 a set for 4.5/7.1 sets.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Like I said, I buy 10 sets at a time...saves me having to make more orders. The grip they provide is quite excellent and the grip is consistent till they are worn out....one race weekend without practice...or 4 each 20 minute heat races.

[Matthew Patterson]

Since we're now talking tires, few comments and questions.

First, did I understand right that those tires (Vegas) last about one weekend? There is no way that I'm spending $150 per weekend on tires. When I ran my Trans Am at GBRS, I didn't spend that much on tires! I bought used 25.5x12-18s at $300 per set, and ran them for 3 full weekends (15 min practice, 20 min qual, 20 min race). And, that was on a $35k car with 400+hp. No way I'm spending more money on tires for a vehicle that weighs 1/10 as much and has 1/10 the hp. The Burris might not be the best, but if they last a few weekends, that's fine by me.

Second, I can somewhat understand not wanting to have a high-performance machine on tires that don't provide ultimate grip. However, don't they run kart races in the rain, just like cars? Do you (who say you only want the ultimate grip tires) run your karts in the rain? If so, then I'll bet that these Burris tires have better dry grip than the best rain tire in a downpour.

Lastly, to quote my good friend Chris Carver, "I just wanna go fast." Put some roundish rubber things onto something that lets them spin, attach a motor, and put me on it. I'll figure out a way to race it.

[Mitch Wright]

Anthony, I have raced karts since 1966 and shifters since 1988 and understand your concerns. We have done a lot of tire testing over the 2009-2010 seasons using shifter's, TAG, KT100's and 4/ karts. The Burris tires have proven to provide good grip, durability and heat cycle very well. Regardless I look forward to meeting and have you join us at the track.

Trans Ram I would get 5-7 races out of the Burris tires on a Super Sportsman kart and a shifter would be 2 maybe 3 with a well set up kart.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Matthew, The tires will last more then a weekend, but to compete against championship level drivers, that is all I run them. After the weekend they become practice and Moore Park tires. And yes we race in the rain on rain tires....and that has nothing to do with my point. To your point about 1/10 the weight and hp...have you driven a shifter? I raced a well prepared Datsun 240Z in the late 70's and 80's. About 2000 lbs dry weight with a touch over 275rwp. It was bad fast and didn't have a chance against a shifter.

Mitch, I'll give the Burris tires a try at some point. Experience with them some years ago didn't bode well, but from what you are telling me they are much improved.

[Fast Guys]

Since we're now talking tires, few comments and questions.

First, did I understand right that those tires (Vegas) last about one weekend? There is no way that I'm spending $150 per weekend on tires. When I ran my Trans Am at GBRS, I didn't spend that much on tires! I bought used 25.5x12-18s at $300 per set, and ran them for 3 full weekends (15 min practice, 20 min qual, 20 min race). And, that was on a $35k car with 400+hp. No way I'm spending more money on tires for a vehicle that weighs 1/10 as much and has 1/10 the hp. The Burris might not be the best, but if they last a few weekends, that's fine by me.

Second, I can somewhat understand not wanting to have a high-performance machine on tires that don't provide ultimate grip. However, don't they run kart races in the rain, just like cars? Do you (who say you only want the ultimate grip tires) run your karts in the rain? If so, then I'll bet that these Burris tires have better dry grip than the best rain tire in a downpour.

Lastly, to quote my good friend Chris Carver, "I just wanna go fast." Put some roundish rubber things onto something that lets them spin, attach a motor, and put me on it. I'll figure out a way to race it.

Oh boy, Matt. This learning curve will be steep. Take everything you know about racing cars and completely forget it. None of it applies anymore.

I'd seriously recommend running the 4-stoke kart for a while before you try to run the ICC. The Rhino was fast, but this is a completely different ballgame. A well tuned shifter will stomp that car into the ground in a straight line and they triple its lateral acceleration. Plus, each hour of run time on the shifter is about 10x the cost as running a 4-stroke. There's no need to burn up all of those dollars just figuring out how to run karts.

Running a shifter kart at Autocross is a much simpler game than running one at a sprint or road race. Maintenance is much higher and tuning is MUCH more important. I've never seen anyone pop a motor at an Autocross, but when racing, if you are just a jet or two off, you could be spending some serious money.

I'll sell you my kart takeoffs for $75 a set if that makes you feel more comfortable. ;)

[Matthew Patterson]

Yeah - pretty sure I have a lot to learn about them. I ran the shifter at Little Talladega back in December. First time ever driving it. Wound up turning high 1:06 to low 1:07, but I was getting faster each lap. Plus, I still need to learn what to do when more than 1 of me is on track.

The tire comment was more of a question. Just trying to learn.

Oh, BTW, I don't own either kart. Gonna rent from Joe until I figure out what I want.

[Fast Guys]

Yeah - pretty sure I have a lot to learn about them. I ran the shifter at Little Talladega back in December. First time ever driving it. Wound up turning high 1:06 to low 1:07, but I was getting faster each lap. Plus, I still need to learn what to do when more than 1 of me is on track.

The tire comment was more of a question. Just trying to learn.

Oh, BTW, I don't own either kart. Gonna rent from Joe until I figure out what I want.
Pace at Talladega is 1:00 flat, so you aren't that far off. That's what I'm saying, though. You should run the 4-stroke kart until you learn the ins and outs of setup, maintenance and budget. Take the advice from someone who's been there. A shifter is a difficult kart to handle, both with the driving and the mechanics. The learning curve is steep and sharp.

I'll be there all day, every day. Call me when you guys are going to bring the shifter out and we'll go over it.

[AnthonyHarwin]

No offense was intended by me, so please accept my apology for sounding that way (when I re-read it it sounded ugly). Run the 4-cycle for a while so you don't learn bad habits. The shifter will let you make mistakes and pull you out with hp. The 4-cycle will teach you to be smooth and learn lines that hold momentum...usually the fastest line(not always!). Come to Moore Park in Lafayette. If you can master that track, most other tracks will seem easy after. You need to turn a 24.5 with the WF if you want to run up front. And remember, hp isn't everything (it sure helps!)... Handling and driving skill are equally important.

[Fast Guys]

No offense was intended by me, so please accept my apology for sounding that way (when I re-read it it sounded ugly). Run the 4-cycle for a while so you don't learn bad habits. The shifter will let you make mistakes and pull you out with hp. The 4-cycle will teach you to be smooth and learn lines that hold momentum...usually the fastest line(not always!). Come to Moore Park in Lafayette. If you can master that track, most other tracks will seem easy after. You need to turn a 24.5 with the WF if you want to run up front. And remember, hp isn't everything (it sure helps!)... Handling and driving skill are equally important.

The good thing is that Matt can really drive. He won't have too much of a problem dealing with the shifter, but you said what I was trying to get to. The shifter is super fast and you can make mistakes and "get away" with it, but if you end up racing them, it will be really difficult to keep up if you are both on a budget and new to karting. It will be manageable to run with a $100/race budget with the WF, but near impossible to do that in a shifter. Believe me, I tried and I had to be pretty imaginative (insert joke here).

[Garett@NMS]

bo rougeouWell, there it is. I'll get my tire changer working shagging some used tires....I buy tires by the case to save a few bucks. And since you are just down the road I may decide to load up and use a set of practice tires to come race. BUT,it will be a cold day in August when I buy some useless brand of tire to come run a throwaway race at your place.
If your plan is to attract people to come to your facility, you should make it more attractive, not less so.
If I have a choice of having fun with what I got or spending money on something useless,the choice is easy.
I couldn't recommend racing with you to anyone but the uninitiated. But that's just me.

AnthonyHarwin
Mitch, Bo is the Louisiana Governor for IKF. His son Steven runs a Formula Ltd CR125 on a Birel CR32 chassis. (light mod class).
I am with Bo on most of this. I will run my shifter in the open class or whatever and not use the Burris tires. No offense intended, but with the speed, lateral and braking forces it is capable of, I only trust a couple of tire brands. I buy 10 sets of Vega Blues at the beginning of the year for $150 per set with free shipping. If the sponsor dictates I'll run the MG Yellows which are about the same albeit more expensive at about $200 per set. Again, I'm not interested in being scored, just want to have fun. My research of the Burris tires suggests they are about the same cost as the Vegas, and having run them before, I am not confident in their grip level for the level of machine I'd be running them on. A mistake in a shifter can be significantly more dangerous then in an Animal, F200, or other kart at 15 or so hp. At 41+ with a 6 speed sequential gearbox... you know the deal. So in the end, I'm fine with whatever you set for rules on tires. We can agree to disagree on tire choice, and still have great fun racing and enjoying karting together. I'll eventually buy a set or two of Burris tires for the 4-stroke machines, just not the shifter (and yes I have plenty of wheel sets, so I can have all I want of whatever mounted.) When I bring my Coyote, it'll have Firestone YFAs (now Bridgestone YKDs) on it. It will have a modified animal on alcohol and we'll just not get scored. I will pull the Animal off the Margay and put my Flathead (also an alky motor) on it and it'll be on old worn out whatever I have laying around tires. I'll be very curious to see how the Animal and Flathead (very modified flathead) stack up against the F200s.




I’m just glad someone has put in the time, effort, sleepless nights and the 40 million dollars to build the best track in North America for us to play on, and the web site for us to discus it all. Who cares about tires if you had the right tires and non of the above what would you have???

[AnthonyHarwin]

There is no question that we are all tickled the Laney is a racing fan. We are grateful that he is willing to put up the money to build a really fantastic racing facility, and are thankful to all those that are putting in all the time and effort it takes to get this going. We appreciate the work it takes to organize such a racing effort...and I know personally what it takes having done it myself...including putting up my own money to keep it going. I am looking forward to meeting everyone and enjoying the spirit of racing that courses through all of our veins. I look forward to competing. And if you read some of my other posts, you will note too that I said I would give the Burris tires a try. Since knave been racing competitively for years I have lots of stuff. Unfortunately much like other local racers, none of it fits precisely into the classes that are going to run at NOLA. So be it, and over time I'll convert and acquire to suit. The track in Lafayette refered to as Moore Park is a tight 6 turn 1/4 mile sprint track with very good and smooth asphalt. It has been here for over 36 years. NOLA will blow it away, but 90% of what you'll find at Moore Park came out of the pockets of local racers or from the sweat equity they invested over the years. We will support NOLA, but I hope that you guys don't believe we as established local racers are not allowed to voice an opinion or two since there will now be a better facility then the one we built with our own backs. Garett, I'll be there if you'll have me. I'll be grateful and appreciative, and I'm sure that nobody will look the other way when a portion of the $20k plus a year I spend on racing goes to your track. Give Bo and I a break for voicing an opinion. I hope we've earned some right to say what we believe. See you at the track! Anthony

[Fast55]

After waiting 30 years for something like this to happen in New Orleans, all I can say is THANK YOU Mr. Chouest & crew!
Anthony, you've been a huge help to us dipping our toes in the kart pond, Looking forward to meeting the established "kart-tel" at NOLA for some trickle-down knowledge.
Paul

[slamana]

Well, there it is. I'll get my tire changer working shagging some used tires....I buy tires by the case to save a few bucks. And since you are just down the road I may decide to load up and use a set of practice tires to come race. BUT,it will be a cold day in August when I buy some useless brand of tire to come run a throwaway race at your place.
If your plan is to attract people to come to your facility, you should make it more attractive, not less so.
If I have a choice of having fun with what I got or spending money on something useless,the choice is easy.
I couldn't recommend racing with you to anyone but the uninitiated. But that's just me.


It's not the tires that make a driver win, it's chassis set up and engine tuning. I ran scrub tires and YHC bridgestones all last season and still managed to win races and set fast times.

NOLA decided to go with the Burris tires for cost reasons. As Garett told me today, you can get 3 race weekends out of a set of Burris tires where you will be lucky to get a race weekend out of a set of MGs or Vega Blues.

It makes more sense to the local racer to not spend a ton of money each race weekend. Don't get me wrong I love MG yellows and soft compound tires, but if you can win on hard compound tires and not use as many tires, then whats the point in wasting all that money? Sorry that this multimillion dollar facility didn't match your high standards of racing. Hope you make it out to the track I'm sure you would enjoy it and I know a few people that might enjoy meeting you now.

[Fast Guys]

It's not the tires that make a driver win, it's chassis set up and engine tuning. I ran scrub tires and YHC bridgestones all last season and still managed to win races and set fast times.

NOLA decided to go with the Burris tires for cost reasons. As Garett told me today, you can get 3 race weekends out of a set of Burris tires where you will be lucky to get a race weekend out of a set of MGs or Vega Blues.

It makes more sense to the local racer to not spend a ton of money each race weekend. Don't get me wrong I love MG yellows and soft compound tires, but if you can win on hard compound tires and not use as many tires, then whats the point in wasting all that money? Sorry that this multimillion dollar facility didn't match your high standards of racing. Hope you make it out to the track I'm sure you would enjoy it and I know a few people that might enjoy meeting you now.

I agree about the cost aspects, but rule number one of racing is: He who has the best tires usually wins.

Garrett, when will you guys have some of the Burris tires available? I would like a set to test on.

[slamana]

I agree about the cost aspects, but rule number one of racing is: He who has the best tires usually wins.

Garrett, when will you guys have some of the Burris tires available? I would like a set to test on.

We have a few sets of Burris tires in stock from my understanding, if not we can order them for you. Just send Garett an email or PM me with the sizes you need.

Shifter is usually 4.6X10-5 front and 7.10x11-5 rear (if that is what you are running)

[bo rougeou]

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[Matthew Patterson]

At a National event, tires will make or break a race. At a local event, not so much. I proved this when I won the 2009 Charity Challenge at Grand Bayou on 12-year-old Yokohama slicks, and put down a 1:20.1xx lap in qualifying. Heck, I only ran used tires that whole year, and never newer than 2 years old.

But again - I may get proven wrong. Ya never know - it's happened before. Once. I think. Perhaps I'm mistaken. hahaha

[Mike Burris]

I see that a few of you have doubts about our tires with one of you even calling them junk! I'm not sure where you get your information from or if you actually ran the tires and had problems but if you'd care to post specifics I'd be glad to address your concerns and answer questions.
As far as IKF or WKA are concerned in regards to what they choose for spec tires the bottom line is they have both become irrelevent and what they do is go to the highest bidder which means the cost are passed on to all karters using those products. We have chose to not play this game and instead keep our prices (which is difficult for a product made in the USA) reasonable and this gets passed on to all users of Burris tires.
Good luck to Mitch and the crew at NOLA in the coming season.
Mike
www.burrisracing.com

[AnthonyHarwin]

Mike, Tires are open in all IKF events with the exception of Grand Nationals. I chose to run tires other then Burris not because of price, but because of what they offered in terms of grip level and wear. I buy 10 sets at a time, and just by happenstance of the two type tires I prefer, one of them can be purchased at $150 per set in single set quantities. If you followed some of my other posts you'd have noted that I said I would happily buy the specified Burris tires and participate. I made note that it had been several years since I had run them and was sure I would be pleased with the performance they offered. If they perform well (it has been 6 or more years since I turned a competitive lap with Burris tires) I'll be the first to say so. And if they out perform the tires I choose in running IKF events, I'll be sporting them on my YZ125 powered Birel CR32x at tracks like Eagles Canyon and MSR Cresson where grip is at a premium and tires are the difference between the top 3 and the showed up for seat time participants.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Mike,
One more thing. Please accept my honest apology. Hope to meet you one day and keep making those tires in America!
Anthony

[Fast Guys]

Mike, since we have you captive, maybe you could answer a few quick questions.
1. What is the the optimum heat range for the B55A?
2. What hot pressures do you recommend for a 420lb 125cc Shifter?
3. Do you have any setup tips to make your tires work the best?
Thanks,
Andrew

[Mike Burris]

Mike, Tires are open in all IKF events with the exception of Grand Nationals.

Anthony, not sue where you came up with this info, but IKF is obligated (to Bridgestone) to encourage Regions (and Clubs) to adhere to the National tire rule and here on the west coast (where 90% of IKF Sprint Racing is done) all of the Regions (6, 7, & 11) run the National tire rule which is Bridgestone. (I should know because we've been locked out for years and it is mainly politics and the "buddy" system to be honest) As part of the agreement IKF has with Bridgestone the Regions are supposed to comply but rarely do. The other thing is in addition to IKF getting $$ for this spec rule they are supposed to pass on some of it for the Grand Nationals to the host club which to my knowledge never happens (at least in the last several years!)
I have to run right now but will get back tomorrow with some more answers. Also, once the track gets into regular operation we'll make it a point to come to Nola to meet all their new karter's and offer technical help if needed.
Regards, Mike

[AnthonyHarwin]

Mike, Region 4b which is hosting the Road Race Grand Nationals for the the second time in three years. If I'm not mistaken, the largest Region in terms of participation in the country. Tires for shifters, both stock and Formula Ltd are open.

[Matthew Patterson]

Awfully nice offer from you, Mike. I'm afraid that some of us (like, ME!) are lost causes when it comes to understanding it all. I just wanna drive fast. (Beating Bob and Andy is simply lagniappe.)

[Fast Guys]

Yer dreamin', Matt. You're going to need to rent a rocket to get past me. Bob, maybe, but not me.

[Matthew Patterson]

Hahaha - yeah, that's gonna be the problem! Oh, and lack of experience. And knowledge. Other than that, I got you covered!

[AnthonyHarwin]

Matt,
All you have to do is push Andy hard. He'll get tired in 2 or 3 laps then you wait for the mistake and take him when he goes into a corner too deep. ;)
Anthony

[Fast Guys]

Matt,
All you have to do is push Andy hard. He'll get tired in 2 or 3 laps then you wait for the mistake and take him when he goes into a corner too deep. ;)
Anthony

You must be getting senile in your old age.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Could be, but not likely. ;)

[Fast Guys]

Could be, but not likely. ;)

Well, I have a ride... I guess you can come and get it. I wasn't 7th in the 2006 GCKC for nothing, you know? Hehehhe....

[AnthonyHarwin]

It has been a long time since you competed! All I know is we're gonna have fun, and I'm ready.

[Matthew Patterson]

Matt,
All you have to do is push Andy hard. He'll get tired in 2 or 3 laps then you wait for the mistake and take him when he goes into a corner too deep. ;)
Anthony

Anthony, go to youtube and look up "Hammond Tire". They were my sponsor, so I listed the video under their name. You'll notice that i]I'm[/i] the one that is most likely to make a mistake!

[Matthew Patterson]

Andy - I didn't know that you were the 7th Gecko!

Was that you in the commercial where the woman in the hotel gets mad at you because she thinks you're someone else? I thought you looked familiar!

[Fast Guys]

Andy - I didn't know that you were the 7th Gecko!

Was that you in the commercial where the woman in the hotel gets mad at you because she thinks you're someone else? I thought you looked familiar!

Nah, I'm the guy that she's mad about. We do look alike, though.

[Joe_914]

Looks like my path is set in Open class with my pimpin ICC and some round rubbery things wrapping the rims.
Andy, Autocross is easy????? PFFFFT!!!!!!!!!! Where would your National title be? Wanna see my shiny gold medal?

If I get to race and not get scored fine. If I have to start in the back row even better cuz then I can Pass Andy TWICE!!!!!!!!!

[Fast Guys]

I dunno, where's yours? I knew you beat that old guy out at a National Autox, but I didn't realize that you had a National Title.

Joe, I'll tell you what: let's just start with Autox and then we'll work on driving in traffic. I don't want you to get overloaded or anything. You are going to be like Rickey Bobby when he was recovering from his wreck. "We're those the other karts !?!?!?!?!?" Hehehe... (Backstory: I have 13 years of Autox experience. I know it's difficult.)

I've been noticing a trend on here that I must be the guy to beat. You know what they say, "You know you're fast when other people can't quit talking about you."

[Bob Beasley]

This is great! After us slow pokes get off the track the shifter race sounds promising. Anthony and Joe should be quite a show!

[AnthonyHarwin]

Yeah well if Blake Starita and David Walker from Mississippi show up we'll have some real fun. If a young man from San Antonio named Waylon McCulloch or an older guy (older than me anyway) from South Houston named Todd Vandermolen show up, then we're all hooped!

[Bob Beasley]

Can we start tomorrow? :)

[Fast Guys]

Yeah well if Blake Starita and David Walker from Mississippi show up we'll have some real fun. If a young man from San Antonio named Waylon McCulloch or an older guy (older than me anyway) from South Houston named Todd Vandermolen show up, then we're all hooped!
I had heard that Blake gave up on karting and is drag-racing motorcycles or something. When's the last time you have seen him?

[AnthonyHarwin]

I haven't spoken to Blake in a year or so, but I speak to Keith every once in a while. Lindsay talks to him a good bit and yes he's drag racing bikes, but may come play when the track opens. He's always bad fast, but it depends (much like you and I) on his weight as to whether he can compete with the light guys.

[Matthew Patterson]

If there are 4 or more other guys running shifters, I know what I'll be buying.

[Fast Guys]

If there are 4 or more other guys running shifters, I know what I'll be buying.

YF200? :cool:

[Matthew Patterson]

Hahaha- you so funny, Andy!

Actually, I think a moderately well maintained mod moto Honda with an 07 or newer Tony Kart chassis is what my ideal is. We'll see how close I can come to that.

[Matthew Patterson]

Oh, and I would agree that Andy is our benchmark for now.

[Fast Guys]

Hahaha- you so funny, Andy!

Actually, I think a moderately well maintained mod moto Honda with an 07 or newer Tony Kart chassis is what my ideal is. We'll see how close I can come to that.

You should try to find whatever chassis Nola will be carrying so they can better help you tune it. Every manufacturer has their own special nuances and sometimes adjustments don't carry over between chassis.

[Fast Guys]

Oh, and I would agree that Andy is our benchmark for now.

Nah. I'll be the back-marker. I'm pretty rusty compared to guys like Anthony, etc. Plus, I'm just a tad (35lbs) heavier than I used to be.

[slamana]

Hahaha- you so funny, Andy!

Actually, I think a moderately well maintained mod moto Honda with an 07 or newer Tony Kart chassis is what my ideal is. We'll see how close I can come to that.

Good luck with the brakes on that tony kart! :p

Buy a CRG you wont regret it, especially since that is one of the brands that we are carrying.

[Fast Guys]

Good luck with the brakes on that tony kart! :p

Buy a CRG you wont regret it, especially since that is one of the brands that we are carrying.

What's wrong with the TonyKart brakes? Don't like the self adjusting design?

[Mitch Wright]

Nothing is wrong with Tony or any of the other karts out there, they all have their quirks. We will be able to get parts for most brands and some parts do crossover between brands. We will be stocking parts for Razor, CRG and Birel, still looking at our oval chassis line. But really no matter what you ride we are available to help how ever we can.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Mitch is right...every chassis has quirks...I call it personality. At least with a Tony, Birel or Intrepid, parts cross over to a degree...CRG is very proud of their hardware (translation - not cheap) and manufactures everything so that nothing but CRG parts fit. They are fast though, so pick your poison.

[slamana]

What's wrong with the TonyKart brakes? Don't like the self adjusting design?

From what I remember about them (haven't seen there new stuff yet), the master cylinders were always the main cause of the problem. I've driven a Tony Kart with an 80 shifter before and thought it was great for a few laps then the brakes started to fade on me. The chassis handles good and it's well built, it's just the brakes that scare me. But hey that's my opinion and I may have been driving a lemon.

But like Mitch said I'm sure what ever chassis makes and models anyone has, we will be able to help you with what ever you need in the kart shop. So no worries, hope to see everyone at the track real soon!

[Garett@NMS]

The big three manufacturers CRG, BIREL, TONY have OEM parts that do not cross; spindles, steering shafts, brake parts etc, with the exception of axles technically they fit (30mm/40mm/50mm) but I would only recommend cross breading in a serious pinch.

If you can you should buy what is being supported locally this will allow you to get back on the track much sooner after breaking something, I can get any parts for a particular brand it just might take a couple days so race day you could be sidelined from the action. But if you see a good deal on any brand of chassis let me know chances are I can get some history on it, make sure it is really what it seams.

We will have a full stock of CRG, BIREL and Razor OEM replacement parts, also complete line of universal aftermarket parts.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Having a local shop to support us here in Louisiana is a new concept for us Louisiana racers... I'm not sure I'll know how to act with parts only 2 hours away from the house!
Garett, Will you guys be supporting Intrepids? There are a few Intrepids here...a few Cruisers and a few Sirius'. Also, there are a couple of Haase karts out there, but the one serious racer, Ricky Torres (aka Ricky Bobby...ran the Winter Nationals with Tagliani, etc) runs a Rotax Max (DDR2) and has quite a stock of parts so he'll be ok.

[Fast Guys]

Having a local shop to support us here in Louisiana is a new concept for us Louisiana racers... I'm not sure I'll know how to act with parts only 2 hours away from the house!
Garett, Will you guys be supporting Intrepids? There are a few Intrepids here...a few Cruisers and a few Sirius'. Also, there are a couple of Haase karts out there, but the one serious racer, Ricky Torres (aka Ricky Bobby...ran the Winter Nationals with Tagliani, etc) runs a Rotax Max (DDR2) and has quite a stock of parts so he'll be ok.
I have an '05 Avanti (Parolin), but I don't tend to tear-up too much at the speeds I'll be driving...

[AnthonyHarwin]

In my experience off roading usually leads to corrective maintenance on my shifter. Last year at Grandsport i got there late and didn't do a good job of going through the kart. In the warmup lap I realized my rear brakes were soft (changed caliper and master since then), but decided I could work through it. Just after the kink at the end of the front straight, I stood on the brakes from about 90 and realized with just front brakes I wouldn't make it though. I went off, then limped back to the pits. Thought I fixed it and was ready in heat 2. What I missed was a tie wrap that held the throttle cable off the pipe had come off in my grass run. In lap 3, from the front I went into the same corner with a stuck wide open throttle. Now that was exciting. Fix those brakes Andy.

[Fast Guys]

In my experience off roading usually leads to corrective maintenance on my shifter. Last year at Grandsport i got there late and didn't do a good job of going through the kart. In the warmup lap I realized my rear brakes were soft (changed caliper and master since then), but decided I could work through it. Just after the kink at the end of the front straight, I stood on the brakes from about 90 and realized with just front brakes I wouldn't make it though. I went off, then limped back to the pits. Thought I fixed it and was ready in heat 2. What I missed was a tie wrap that held the throttle cable off the pipe had come off in my grass run. In lap 3, from the front I went into the same corner with a stuck wide open throttle. Now that was exciting. Fix those brakes Andy.

It's already handled, Anthony. I didn't have fronts that day because the bleeder didn't make it into the trailer. It stops like a champ, now.

BTW: I bleed the brakes every day that I run the kart. Some people consider it overkill, but I like knowing they work. It also forces me to look at my pad gaps, spindles, axle, etc. When you drive old junk like I do, maintenance is paramount.

[Fast Guys]

Mitch and Garrett,
I have a 2001 Honda Cr125 engine sitting on a bike that I don't ride anymore. I also have a spare Swedetech top end for a 1999 cr125. Do you know if those two will mate together? I had heard that the 2001 Cylinder has been used for Stock Honda. Are the NOLA rules structured for Stock Honda or Mod Honda? I'm considering building this motor, but I need to know which way to go with it.

[Garett@NMS]

Yes the bottom ends are compatible any 6 speed bottom will work with all 1999 and up cylinders I think back to 1997 (need to check on this). 2001 cylinders are not legal for Spec Honda classes. The rule is 1999 kit engine but we WILL allow any six speed Honda case (legacy also). This is the rule set we will follow www.superkartsusa.com let me know what you need for parts I have tons of good used Spec Honda parts.

[Fast Guys]

Yeah, 1996 is the last year for 6-speed. Is the 5-speed transmission legal at NOLA?

I am reading the SKUSA rules and they say a 2001 cylinder is legal.


1997 to 2002 cylinders are legal. No modification of the cylinder is allowed, such as porting, adding or deleting of ports, decking, or re-nikasil. Stock power valves may be removed and aftermarket plugs used, with no filling, welding, or modifying of the cylinder. No machining of any portion of the exhaust port is allowed. Power valve plugs must be matched outside of the cylinder and re-inserted. Cylinder mounting flanges for retaining cylinder to cases may be spot faced in the area where the nut meets the flange only. Some factory grinding, done prior to the Nikasil process, is present on many cylinders. The Technical Director reserves the right to approve or disapprove any cylinder supplied by Honda and not modified. In other words, some stock OEM cylinders may not be acceptable for SKUSA competition.

The reeds are spec'ed to 1999 CR125, but if I remember correctly, the 2001 takes a different reed bolt pattern. Do you have any opinion on that?

Right now, it looks like I need a pipe, silencer, power-valve plugs, carb and electronics. What do you have laying around? Feel free to email me.

[slamana]

Yeah, 1996 is the last year for 6-speed. Is the 5-speed transmission legal at NOLA?

I am reading the SKUSA rules and they say a 2001 cylinder is legal.



The reeds are spec'ed to 1999 CR125, but if I remember correctly, the 2001 takes a different reed bolt pattern. Do you have any opinion on that?

Right now, it looks like I need a pipe, silencer, power-valve plugs, carb and electronics. What do you have laying around? Feel free to email me.

If you're running IKF its a 99 motor only, with power valve plugs, RLV R4 pipe or RCE T3 (can't remember which one). No case mods. Also, 1999 Honda CR125- Denso # 071000-1410 CDI only. Stator and flywheel must be stock OEM with key and keyway unmodified. No altering of the stator plate to facilitate timing adjustment is allowed. Stator clip should be in place to align static timing to (0) zero degrees. If clip is missing, timing marks (stator to case) must be aligned. The intent of this is to have (0) zero degree static timing.

For SKUSA 98-01 motors are allowed, but also have some of the same rules and regulations.

Hope this helps. Andrew, if you need some parts or some help with any of this email me at slamana@uno.edu

[Fast Guys]

If you're running IKF its a 99 motor only, with power valve plugs, RLV R4 pipe or RCE T3 (can't remember which one). No case mods. Also, 1999 Honda CR125- Denso # 071000-1410 CDI only. Stator and flywheel must be stock OEM with key and keyway unmodified. No altering of the stator plate to facilitate timing adjustment is allowed. Stator clip should be in place to align static timing to (0) zero degrees. If clip is missing, timing marks (stator to case) must be aligned. The intent of this is to have (0) zero degree static timing.

For SKUSA 98-01 motors are allowed, but also have some of the same rules and regulations.

Hope this helps. Andrew, if you need some parts or some help with any of this email me at slamana@uno.edu or call me at 504-458-4540

Thanks. Garrett is rounding a few things up for me. Feel free to let me know what you have as far as used parts go.

[slamana]

Thanks. Garrett is rounding a few things up for me. Feel free to let me know what you have as far as used parts go.

I have a ton of 40mm gears 18-30 tooth (don't use them anymore since I switched to 50mm), couple silencers, motor mounts, and engine parts. I don't have any pipes left I think I sold most of them.

Wasn't your kart together? I remember you running with us a JESTC..

[Fast Guys]

That kart is long gone. I sold the CMC Honda to the Walkers and the TopKart chassis with the home-built mod motor to a friend, who immediately pretzled it in a parking lot.

I bought an '05 Avanti with a TM K9 on it. I am really planning on using the kart as a practice ride to get back into shape to run production cars. Since I don't plan on racing it much, I can't justify keeping the TM on it. A Stock Honda motor will be fine.

The current kart is 50mm. How much would you like for a motor mount? Do you have a spare carb? Is the Stock Moto pipe outlet a 1" or 1-1/8"? I may have a few silencers. I need ignition parts, J-arm, fuel pump (double preferably). Let me know what you have. Feel free to email me at andrew@fastguys.com .

[AnthonyHarwin]

Andy,
If Stephen doesn't have the pump-around set up, get in contact with John at www.Fastech-racing.com as he'll sell you the pump-around and modify the carb (you have to provide carb...although he'll sell you that too if you need it) to use it for less than $200.

[Mitch Wright]

Andy/Anthony,

Over the last few years a number of engine builders and racers are going away from the pump-around carbs. I know all the teams that went to Super Nats from MMP running Spec Honda's (all running in the top 15 most in the top 10) were not using it. We have found we have better throttle response with out. I sure Garett can provide details. garett@nolamotor.com

[Fast Guys]

I can do the pump-around conversion myself if it becomes a problem, but I will try to run without the PA and see if it runs right. I figure I don't need to worry as much with a Stock Honda as I would with a full modified engine.

I had a cr80 that the previous owner had put an extra pump on the overflow tube. That may be a good option.

[AnthonyHarwin]

The pump around can be a real problem if the return circuit picks up air. Without a float stopping fuel supply, the carb gets overwhelmed with fuel and motor falls on its face as soon as you back out of the throttle. It happened to me three years ago at No Problem, and while I set fastest lap for the heavys by more than a second, I kept passing the same six guys and ended up about sixth. Depending on how the bowl baffles are set up, a high g left turn can drain the bowl and starve the carb. Result is about the same as above. I've heard the throttle response stuff and will talk to Garett about it, but I can't help but wonder if that is more a Kehien vs Mikuni issue.

[Mitch Wright]

It could be a Kehien vs Mikuni issue all the guys we were dealing with out west run Kehien carbs. When I was running CR125 (ok this goes back to 2002) ran both Kehien and Mikuni carbs, both with out pump arounds. The Mikuni was easier to set up and jet but the Kehien was a few 1/10's quicker when right. Garett will have more current info than I do having been on the sidelines looking in on the Spec shifter stuff.

[AnthonyHarwin]

To be honest, I sometimes wonder if the Kehien(with pump around) isn't better for sprint racing and the Mikuni(with floats) better for road racing. I have both, but run the Kehien almost exclusively. Your point about jetting is very interesting...1 jet too lean on a Kehien and your doing a complete top end replacement! Get it right on and you can out pull guys drafting (on a medium straight anyway). Anyway, I swear I'm gonna mount a det sensor this year (I said that last year too).

[Mitch Wright]

The trend seem to be running carbs with floats, we had a run of guys sticking the top ends early in the season. About the same time a number of the shifter guys were getting away from the pump arounds, i will ask Garett to post. I did find that the Mikuni has a bigger jetting window than than the Kehien, could be just me.
Just an FYI when using VP C12 then switch to Sunoco 110 you will need to run about 2 steps richer on the main.

[Fast Guys]

It's Keihin only in the Stock Honda classes. I never had much of a problem with the PWM on my old kart. I've never run a Mikuni on a kart engine.

Any more word on the fuel choices?

[AnthonyHarwin]

When it is cooler I run at least 2 jets bigger...add a jump to Sonoco 110 and add another 2. I've found myself running a 195 or 200 when my notes called for a 180 according to air density. Include changing my squish from a .026 to .035 just to push compression down even though it throws off my xfer and exhaust port timing a bit. It'll be good to compare notes with Garett. And while I'm at it I think I'll pull out the Mikuni....

[dgreen]

Any chnace of a KT100 Can class or a TaG Class??
We just moved to the Long Beach, MS area from IL and ran both of those classes up north.

[Mitch Wright]

Our Tag class will be Rotax. Change your can to the KPV3 or RLV3 pipe (same as IKF Super Sportsman) and your KT fit in to the Super Sportsman class. Your TAG engine can run in our open sprint or oval classes.

Welcome to the Gulf Coast, I am also a recent trans plant.

[Bob Beasley]

Any chnace of a KT100 Can class or a TaG Class??
We just moved to the Long Beach, MS area from IL and ran both of those classes up north.

The KTs stack up very well indeed with the F200s(4 strokes) in Super Sportsman. My friend who has a KT and I have been tuning up for the track to open and have enjoyed lots of tight racing. I know of 2 KTs that will be running Super Sportsman with us. Welcome to the area!

[Mitch Wright]

It was great to see the KT guys (Paul) stepping up his program (I think he was the only KT out yesterday, sorry if I missed someone). He has always driven well but now he been tuning on his chassis and it is game on. Watching from the side lines the KT-F200 wars are going to be who's on top of their game to take the win, I am please to see how close the racing will be with the 2 engine packages.
Also it is really great to see our Jr racers getting up to speed along with top dog in Rotax and shifter I think is really up for grab's

The start of the race program is just around the corner.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Garett, Mitch, Wes, I have a request for the shifter classes. Since we mod shifter guys would have to run open, what are the chances of splitting the mods out in light (485#) and heavy (420#)? Or at least splitting the open class into a light and heavy? I have about $15k++ (3 motors plus 5 extra cylinders, pistons, etc) in mod motors, so I'm compelled to at least ask!

[Troy V Smith]

Sure, sure, sure - leave it up to Garett, Wes and Mitch to help you out! I have a TREADMILL you can borrow for a couple months! I hear rice cakes and wheaties are nice this time of year too. Ha, Ha - too funny! (I thought)

[Bob Beasley]

Anthony,

I feel your pain, come over at lunch for some tuna fish and a 10 mile bike ride :)

Jabba

[Wes@NMS]

If we have enough entries to merit a couple classes why not split 'em? Start recruiting!

Wes

[Bob Beasley]

If we have enough entries to merit a couple classes why not split 'em? Start recruiting!

Wes

Wow that was easy, let me try.

Mitch, Garett, Shelton, Wes, Kelly,
I've got 54 years invested in my belly. It seems such a shame to lose a lifetime achievement such as mine. I don't want to split classes as I can't wait to race Scott and Wes. Can you please change the rules for me and make Super Sportsman oh... say 410 minimum? I'm at 396 but with the holidays and such I figure 410 should cover it for a bit.

[Mitch Wright]

As we get closer to our 1st race event in January we will look at our racer population and class structure. As a FYI we will be doing our best keep the number of classes to a minimum.

[AnthonyHarwin]

Sure, sure, sure - leave it up to Garett, Wes and Mitch to help you out! I have a TREADMILL you can borrow for a couple months! I hear rice cakes and wheaties are nice this time of year too. Ha, Ha - too funny! (I thought)
I have an idea Troy. At the next TnT we can weigh our karts and bolt lead (I will provide the lead) to your kart (probably 45 lbs or so) to make them weigh the same and we'll do a 30 lap race, Formula 1 standing start, $100 each on the table, winner walks away with the cash. ;)

[slamana]

Garett, Mitch, Wes, I have a request for the shifter classes. Since we mod shifter guys would have to run open, what are the chances of splitting the mods out in light (485#) and heavy (420#)? Or at least splitting the open class into a light and heavy? I have about $15k++ (3 motors plus 5 extra cylinders, pistons, etc) in mod motors, so I'm compelled to at least ask!

If we have enough karts in each of these classes I'm sure they wouldn't mind splitting us up for points sake anyway... I'm in the same boat as you Anthony, 5 mod engines plus extra parts.. I don't have enough money to go out and buy a stock honda package and put my mod stuff on a shelf. And I think you meant 385 not 485 for light

[AnthonyHarwin]

Goodness yes...385# for the light class! I'm already planning on putting a new chassis in the stable, so dropping yet another $6k or more on a couple of stockers may get the wife's attention.

[Troy V Smith]

I have an idea Troy. At the next TnT we can weigh our karts and bolt lead (I will provide the lead) to your kart (probably 45 lbs or so) to make them weigh the same and we'll do a 30 lap race, Formula 1 standing start, $100 each on the table, winner walks away with the cash.

You're on. If however, we are going to go with a standard weight, we also need to go with a standard powerplant. Seeing how all you have are the high priced mod motors - give me a couple weeks to slap together my own version of a "mod" motor and pick myself up a shrapnel vest - then we'll try our luck on the track. I'm sure I can build a "ticking time bomb", but it only has to last 30 laps, right? I think we need to post this in the "callouts" section.